Welcome to Band Jury, a SPIN collection through which artists defend black sheep albums they really feel deserve one other hear. These are initiatives that, for no matter cause (middling gross sales, adverse evaluations, a misunderstood stylistic shift) have fallen barely out of style — or maybe by no means reached it to start with.
The Defender: Emil Amos
{Qualifications}: Style-blurring songwriter and producer (Holy Sons); occasional podcaster and music journalist; drummer/multi-instrumentalist for a number of bands, together with experimental rock quartet Grails, who launched their eighth LP, Anches En Maat, in September; human who enjoys music
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The Defended: Seals & Crofts’ 1975 album, I’ll Play for You
Overview: left little to no footprint, review-wise—not even a write-up on the usually complete AllMusic; peaked at No. 30 on the Billboard 200, a modest decline after the profitable run of 1972’s Summer season Breeze, 1973’s Diamond Lady, and 1974’s Unborn Little one; spawned two singles, “I’ll Play for You” (No. 18 on the Scorching 100) and “Castles within the Sand”; earned middle-of-the-road rating (3.13/5.0) on fan-review website RateYourMusic
When you seek the advice of the music-snob gospel codified partially by snarky album evaluations, sure kinds of music are inherently “uncool”—you would possibly end up dismissing a whole style with out even exploring it, based mostly on some form of baked-in cultural trope you don’t totally grasp.
I skilled a variation of that state of affairs. As a teen, I secretly loved the mellow, melodious strains of soft-rock (like America and Bread) that I first absorbed by way of traditional pop radio—however I didn’t enable myself to interact with it past the confines of a JCPenney dressing room or dentist workplace foyer. (No less than not till years later.) I knew I’d be roasted, no less than playfully, for mentioning it to a buddy in dialog. However why, actually? I’m undecided even the roaster would have a superb reply.
Grails’ Emil Amos first began to interact with soft-rock in an actual, significant means within the early 2000s, whereas “poor as fuck” and amassing 8-tracks on a budget. After years of recording lo-fi music, he wished to step up his manufacturing recreation—and he ultimately discovered priceless classes from music usually dismissed as sonic wallpaper.
“It was such a pleasant revelation,” he tells SPIN, “that every one the shit that I’d ignored held much more secrets and techniques and textural units that I wanted to find.”
One such band was Seals & Crofts, who launched a string of ‘70s hits (“Diamond Lady,” “Summer season Breeze,” “Hummingbird”) balancing slick vocal concord with formidable preparations—every thing from saxophone to mandolin. And you’ll hear traces of that affect—together with steel, krautrock, psychedelia, and nearly each different amplified style—in Grails’ wealthy instrumental stew. (Amos even says there’s a “parallel to the Seals & Crofts dialog” in Grails’ newest album, Anches En Maat.)
The musician spoke to SPIN about Seals & Crofts, 1975’s I’ll Play for You, and the fantastic thing about discovering (or re-discovering) music with out preconceived notions of coolness.
“File amassing actually is reconstruing all the narrative of music for your self as a feat of unbiased pondering,” he says. “When you actually wish to get into why individuals sift and spend all this time, it seems to be nerdy, however I feel it’s in an effort to seek out the true humanity within the creases and shut out the trade spoon-fed narrative that has crowded your sight view for so a few years.”
When did you first hear Seals & Crofts? Had been you instantly a fan?
I contemplate myself a perpetual newcomer to Seals & Crofts, and I prefer to hold it that means. They embody one thing that I’m all the time interested in however don’t wish to burn out, which is [partially] the intense seriousness to their strategy. Bands like Bread had a form of fakeness, a form of plasticity—I feel Bread is among the nice American bands, however there’s one thing duplicitous about them. There’s one thing awry, one thing toxic behind Bread’s repellent shell.
Seals & Crofts had been a later discovery for me—their sincerity is weirdly surprising or one thing. I feel they stand parallel to Crosby, Stills, & Nash all through their profession. The extra you tighten the lens on Crosby, Stills, & Nash and settle for Seals & Crofts for what they had been, Crosby, Stills, & Nash begins to appear to be a flagship band for white-privilege music, and Seals & Crofts begins to appear to be a really real, working-class, lovely expression. I feel that’s the crux of why they’re price investigating.
I assume, given that you simply had been fairly dedicated to hardcore again within the day, that you simply most likely didn’t instantly search out the music from that period.
Again within the ’90s, I used to be such a militant lo-fi hardcore child that, after I would expertise music from the opposite aspect of the tracks, like techno, it might make me really feel so gross. It sounded so overseas and so sleazy and so capitalist to my ears. However ultimately, my curiosity concerning the different aspect of the tracks got here full-circle. At the start of the 2000s, I’d moved to Portland and we had been beginning Grails—for my part, [that era] was a really international rebuilding interval for underground music, which had hit a wall to some extent. The ’90s’ perceived ethics and stylistic parameters had reached the tip of their highway, ya know? Plus, simply the commercialism of the underground had form of spoiled a variety of what was thrilling again within the Solar Metropolis Ladies days. There was just about nothing that was dangerous by ’99. You noticed Malkmus breaking apart Pavement for good cause—there was one thing lifeless within the highway, and we needed to clear it.
After I would come house from work, and I used to be poor as fuck, I began amassing 8-tracks. I’d hit the bong and flip by means of this forgotten music historical past that you may get for 1 / 4 as a result of all people had deserted it. At first of the 2000s, I wanted classes in file manufacturing. I wanted to grasp step up from lo-fi to the world of hi-fi as a result of I used to be very intimidated. I’d spent 10 years on a four-track. Grails was getting signed, and Holy Sons, my solo undertaking, was popping out with my first file. I knew that, to enter the dialectic of music historical past, I higher include some fucking education, or else I used to be gonna embarrass myself.
In listening to the 8-tracks, tape after tape—and digesting the Carpenters for the primary time, actually, and Bread beneath a microscope, and America for their best attributes—and it was such a pleasant revelation that every one the shit that I’d ignored held much more secrets and techniques and textural units that I wanted to find. The primary time you actually hear “Summer season Breeze” for what it truly is, exterior of the tradition of automotive commercials, it’s form of taking issues concerning the Band and the Beatles—the nice natural bands—and actually bettering sure elements. The best way Seals & Crofts strategy yacht-rock is way more like Morricone—like an Italian skilled classical arranger. There isn’t a fucking time wasted. There isn’t a fats on these preparations. The execution is so technically unreal.
It seems like they made a reasonably large affect on you as a producer.
If you wish to get into the type of depth of what they’re supplying you with, there’s rather a lot to find there. I don’t wish to burn it out, so I solely put it on each occasionally, however I’m nonetheless determining shit about them. I simply discovered they had been within the Champs and did the fucking music “Tequila,” which takes you again to the ’50s in Texas. When you actually wish to get into the science of file manufacturing, Seals & Crofts needs to be 101 in colleges.
You particularly highlighted the album I’ll Play for You, partly in response to a quote out of your buddy Lou Barlow. In a 2017 Facebook post, he wrote the next concerning the title observe: “I completely forgot about this music…so acquainted but so actually terrible, actually…not as a result of it’s tacky ‘70s crap, I like tacky ‘70s crap…this simply straight up sucks.”
I most likely solely thought to decide on them as a result of Lou Barlow is a buddy of mine and we’re placing collectively a compilation of his nice early works proper now. He posted that I’ll Play for You” was actually the worst music ever written or one thing. I assumed, “Nicely, clearly they’re hated.” Then I put it on, and I truly like that music as a result of it’s so overseas to me. Lou’s a bit of older, so he skilled all of the true connotations of that music culturally, whereas I’m totally faraway from it, so it simply seems like a humorous Epcot Middle escapade to me. The music truly has nice manufacturing; it’s tremendous weird.
As I type of walked by means of my home stoned through the years, I slowly realized that the remainder of that [first] aspect might be among the finest sides of the ’70s. I feel for those who want a conversion observe, “Golden Rainbow” is the music to play for individuals. I do know it as a result of I simply did it—I performed it for Grails within the van whereas driving from Estonia to Latvia. You may see of their eyes that they understood Seals & Crofts for the primary time. They heard the classical guitars in good meter. The blending is immaculate. There’s nonetheless this sort of burnout purity that makes you are feeling prefer it’s good comedown music. It’s there that will help you, to rescue you. It’s good for you. That’s a extra mature tackle life and information, proper? You don’t wish to simply hear somebody making a bunch of fucking noise. You need somebody to have a cause why they’re offering you with this.
It’s practical.
Proper. I feel the remainder of the aspect presents a vivid image of their contradiction. They’re at work—they’re businessmen—however they deal with the enterprise with respect, like a fucking gunslinger. They strategy their harmonies and guitar components like no-nonsense Clint Eastwood. Listening to information and speaking to different individuals may be actually crazy-making—it’s like a recreation of Rashomon. There’s one thing about Seals & Crofts that appears to elude individuals’s ears. Anna at Short-term Residence was like, “You ought to do The Eagles [for Band Jury]!” She is aware of that I grew up form of appreciating them within the ’90s that different individuals had issue with.
Going to Boston and form of trolling round within the underworld and doing arduous medicine and stuff, I got here to an ideal revelation that the music of the streets and the music and heroin addicts and Vietnam vets and the music within the homeless shelters that I’ve labored in is the Eagles and Seals & Crofts. That’s the music individuals OD to—it’s not Aphex Twin. I simply acquired actually sick of the form of pretender tradition that likes to take drug expertise and throw it into fashionable corridors. For me, it was like, “Oh, I’m actually touching the Earth’s soil. I’m actually there and seeing the music of the disenfranchised.” That was an ideal revelation to me. But additionally, as a day and night time practitioner of songwriting and association, my perspective on the Eagles is simply inherently totally different from all people else. What I’m attempting to choose up is what they’re good at. Everyone else is simply attempting to rehash some dumbass Lebowski line.
As a musician, you’re on this music another way than some wiseass cracking jokes concerning the album covers. You wish to look beneath the hood a bit.
It’s straightforward to really feel like an outsider in your individual tradition when indie-rock has largely been the sound of white privilege, when indie-rock has been the sound of boring individuals being bored and providing some type of legitimization of that worldview to their bored viewers. It pressured individuals like us to return and discover a extra advanced image.
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